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		<title>By: A challenge for John Donahoe and Lorrie Norrington : TameBay : eBay news blog and forum</title>
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		<dc:creator>A challenge for John Donahoe and Lorrie Norrington : TameBay : eBay news blog and forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to throw a challenge out to John and Lorrie. Show us you&#8217;re on our side; show us you&#8217;re more than just MBAs; show us that whatever we&#8217;re going through, we&#8217;re going through it together. By the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to throw a challenge out to John and Lorrie. Show us you&#8217;re on our side; show us you&#8217;re more than just MBAs; show us that whatever we&#8217;re going through, we&#8217;re going through it together. By the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mikal, that&#039;s an excellent addition. 

I suppose I&#039;m beating a dead horse. But it is just fascinating to watch what is taking place with eBay. Ironically, someday it will all be a lesson in business schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mikal, that&#8217;s an excellent addition. </p>
<p>I suppose I&#8217;m beating a dead horse. But it is just fascinating to watch what is taking place with eBay. Ironically, someday it will all be a lesson in business schools.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikal Belicove</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikal Belicove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 00:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve:

Noted business author and motivational speaker Guy Kawasaki talks about the notion of eBay&#039;s MBA&#039;s not selling on eBay in his book &quot;Rules For Revolutionaries: The Capitalist Manifesto for Creating and Marketing New Products and Services.&quot;

Here&#039;s an excerpt:

&quot;A second way to determine if you&#039;ve passed the order of magnitude test is to see if you and colleagues have come to depend on the new product or service for you own success. Long before Macintosh was shipped, we were addicted to using it in our day-to-day work (for example, writing marketing plans) in the Macintosh Division. This isn&#039;t just &quot;eating your own dog food&quot; but loving your own dog food and not wanting to eat anything but your own dog food. When your product or service passes these hurdles, you will find that the revolutionary gains so outweigh the minor and temporary crappiness that shipping is a moral obligation.&quot;

Kawasaki got it right back in the year 2000 when his first shared these thoughts. Eating your own dog is critical to maintaining product authenticity, value, and the right type of scalability.

You know, I once worked for a company where I proposed making use of the company&#039;s own products and services a mandatory requirement of employment, at all levels of the company. Since using the company&#039;s products and services involved amassing fees from another company, I even proposed setting up a fund to reimburse employees&#039; fees (it amounted to under $10k per year if everyone participated).

I was laughed out of the room where I proposed it, and every other time I brought it up, I received a similar reaction. Executive-level leadership (of which I was a part of) was worried about the time it would take away from employees doing their jobs, which was exactly my point...

In order to walk one mile in our customers’ shoes, we had to know what they experienced. Since we had insider knowledge into the industry, trends, technological possibilities, competitor efforts, and more, who better than us--the people who worked at the company, in concert with our customers--to test the waters and see what works, doesn&#039;t work, needs to be rethought, needs to added to the roadmap, and on and on and on. 

No one but me, all the middle managers, and the front line employees themselves, saw value in doing this. Instead, the company spent thousands upon thousands of dollars on perks for the owners, unnecessary travel to conferences and trade shows that produced no material partnerships to speak of, facilities expansions that had to be subleased shortly thereafter, billboard advertising campaigns in the local community that netted zero gain for the company, ridiculous employee incentives, and other misinformed expenditures that led to staff layoffs and cutbacks.

Attracting beginner online retailers is the easy part. Getting them to sign up for an eBay account or for an eBay Certified Provider&#039;s services is a little harder. The hardest part of all is keeping the customer beyond a trial period or 20-day window where they expect--because of how you marketed to them--instant results. How else can you possibly serve the needs of these types of customers if you do not encourage and support your employees in eating their own dog food? 

In this line of business, you cannot expect reasonable and long-term results without a product development cycle that hinges on employees&#039; own use of your products and services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve:</p>
<p>Noted business author and motivational speaker Guy Kawasaki talks about the notion of eBay&#8217;s MBA&#8217;s not selling on eBay in his book &#8220;Rules For Revolutionaries: The Capitalist Manifesto for Creating and Marketing New Products and Services.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an excerpt:</p>
<p>&#8220;A second way to determine if you&#8217;ve passed the order of magnitude test is to see if you and colleagues have come to depend on the new product or service for you own success. Long before Macintosh was shipped, we were addicted to using it in our day-to-day work (for example, writing marketing plans) in the Macintosh Division. This isn&#8217;t just &#8220;eating your own dog food&#8221; but loving your own dog food and not wanting to eat anything but your own dog food. When your product or service passes these hurdles, you will find that the revolutionary gains so outweigh the minor and temporary crappiness that shipping is a moral obligation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kawasaki got it right back in the year 2000 when his first shared these thoughts. Eating your own dog is critical to maintaining product authenticity, value, and the right type of scalability.</p>
<p>You know, I once worked for a company where I proposed making use of the company&#8217;s own products and services a mandatory requirement of employment, at all levels of the company. Since using the company&#8217;s products and services involved amassing fees from another company, I even proposed setting up a fund to reimburse employees&#8217; fees (it amounted to under $10k per year if everyone participated).</p>
<p>I was laughed out of the room where I proposed it, and every other time I brought it up, I received a similar reaction. Executive-level leadership (of which I was a part of) was worried about the time it would take away from employees doing their jobs, which was exactly my point&#8230;</p>
<p>In order to walk one mile in our customers’ shoes, we had to know what they experienced. Since we had insider knowledge into the industry, trends, technological possibilities, competitor efforts, and more, who better than us&#8211;the people who worked at the company, in concert with our customers&#8211;to test the waters and see what works, doesn&#8217;t work, needs to be rethought, needs to added to the roadmap, and on and on and on. </p>
<p>No one but me, all the middle managers, and the front line employees themselves, saw value in doing this. Instead, the company spent thousands upon thousands of dollars on perks for the owners, unnecessary travel to conferences and trade shows that produced no material partnerships to speak of, facilities expansions that had to be subleased shortly thereafter, billboard advertising campaigns in the local community that netted zero gain for the company, ridiculous employee incentives, and other misinformed expenditures that led to staff layoffs and cutbacks.</p>
<p>Attracting beginner online retailers is the easy part. Getting them to sign up for an eBay account or for an eBay Certified Provider&#8217;s services is a little harder. The hardest part of all is keeping the customer beyond a trial period or 20-day window where they expect&#8211;because of how you marketed to them&#8211;instant results. How else can you possibly serve the needs of these types of customers if you do not encourage and support your employees in eating their own dog food? </p>
<p>In this line of business, you cannot expect reasonable and long-term results without a product development cycle that hinges on employees&#8217; own use of your products and services.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on! Very well written and I agree with your view. The consultants have taken over the assylum...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on! Very well written and I agree with your view. The consultants have taken over the assylum&#8230;</p>
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